Discussion Notes – Nuclear Energy – March 4, 2008

 

Social

-People don’t like nuclear – scary

-Huge social stigmatism associated with nuclear energy following Three Mile Island in New York, 1979

-Nuclear energy upwards of 20% of total energy output already

-Concerns date to Cold War – concerns over nuclear weapons transferred into concerns over nuclear power

-Reactors can take over 10 years and $5 billion to build

-There are 103 nuclear reactors delivering 20% of America’s electricity. 80% of people living within 10 miles of these plants approve of them

 

Political

-Companies getting “in line” for permits, but are waiting on gov’t “go ahead”

-In 1960s, took approx. 5-8 years to build after getting gov’t contract

-Security threat

-Approx. 400 nuclear plants worldwide, U.S. has over 100

-Land use à very small (good for cities)

 

Economics

-Cost per power plant?

-How long do they last?

-Current gov’t total cost is $342 million

-Projected $35 billion by 2018 out of treasury

-Currently competitive in market

-Nuclear energy at current plants cheap, but sold at market rates so consumers don’t benefit

-Uranium stocks now up

 

Scientific

-Fusion – tokomak

-Delta E = delta MC^2 – huge energy %

-Fusion makes no waste, 10,000 yr half life, not in practice yet, 100,000,000 Kelvin to work, 10 g water + 15 g Lithium = 1 person’s energy for life

-1 lb high grade uranium = 1 mil gal gasoline

-French pressurized H2O reactor technology

 

Environmental

-Waste?

-Effects of fusion?

-Purely electromagnetic radiation – no particulate, i.e. x-ray – easily contained

-3 Mile Island was a success story. No one was killed and the concrete container did what is was supposed to do, prevent radiation from escaping the environment

 

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Fusion vs Fission

Fission- uses uranium, radioactive waste,

Mark and Joe

Fusion- have reactors, but not operating yet, comes from E=mc^2, taking deuterium isotope and tritium isotope, smash them together, unstable, shoots out neutron, creates huge amount of energy, Lithium used to get tritium

Requires superheated plasma gases, that’s why it’s super experimental now, output energy greater than input, but as soon as you turn off the reactor, it stops

No waste, helium and a neutron

Greg- uses less land, can build a plant next to a city and power the whole city, half the pop will be in cities by 2050, Chernobyl – scary – propaganda

Adam B.- nuclear power threatens water supply, seismic activity affects path of waste, sequestration in ocean ducts

Jeff Davis- 10,000 year half-life, never know where the radioactivity will go, had mercury spills at Nevada school

Can we reuse the waste? Contain it? Nevada salt mine (Babcock)

Yucca Mountain, Nevada, radioactive waste area, slow water movement area, best option for waste

How economical? 20% on fission right now

Social stigmatism- no one wants to live near that stuff, 3 mile island (Eli R)